Over $150 million? I'm not sure.

You were Executive Vice President from 2002 and 2006? Yes.

So you were familiar with the revenue stream? A little.

You were responsible for economic development? Yes.

And you wanted to have a successful relationship with the city? Yes.

And you ended up having a very successful relationship? Well you gave me figures and relationships which is it.

Lakeshore became very successful. You were point person for business in the city of Detroit? Yes.

Revenues for Lakeshore in 2002 were $8 million? Yes.

And you grew to $154 million. That’s a big change isn't it? That's a big change.

Sky Group is a company that Lakeshore has? It's a separate group.

While you had ownership with Sky Group the Woodward building was purchased? Yes.

And you gave Kilpatrick to have campaign headquarters in that building? Yes.

Witness says the witness was not full at the time.

You told grand jury that supporting mayor's campaign helped business? I'm not sure says witness.

Evelyn gives him testimony. Witness says that's right.

You reasoned that this patronage with the mayor would help you have contracts? The name recognition would help yes.

You had intended to cultivate relationship with mayor for purposes of getting business? Yes says Hardiman.

It would be helpful to navigate the city through those relationships? Yes.

You start off having a contract and it can be cancelled. That's a problem right? Yes it happened to us says witness.

You know that sometimes people bid and they win and sometimes they lose? Yes.

You're competing against other people? That's right.

When trying to compete to get business you want to have every advantage? Yes.

You wanted to have name recognition? Yes.

That's why you had fund-raisers and leased an office to the campaign? We had fund-raisers to get the mayor elected.

Witness says he wanted exposure to the mayor by having his campaign headquarters in the Woodward building.